The factory is relative. The front tire touches slightly on the front fender liner on full lock. You may have heard someone talk about how bad wheel spacers are for your wheel bearings and all that, technically the same goes for offset wheels. A quality set of tires can definitely make a world of a difference when it comes to off-road performance. Even a body lift will improve clearance, however, this will not give you much advantage when going off-road. I gotta 2nd gen 2008 tacoma, thinking about putting on some 33s, what is the minimum I could go for a lift with no rubbing, i could go with some spacers too, I just dont want a lift that is too high. It really depends on the goals for your build. A pair of two usually goes for upwards of $100. You won't be rubbing on your can mount though since It's skinnier. I would like to go up to the BFG KO2 285/75R 16. Hence the reason why so many want to know what the biggest tire size is you can comfortably fit on a stock Tacoma. I used to roll 31x10.5x15 Super Swamped TSL's on my 99 4x4 stock. Offset wheels and spacers both have their pros and cons. Off-road driving is a bit of a different story. Technically suspension lifts dont clear tires for use off-road, but they can help. A decent aftermarket rim will be a 0 offset or more and will improve the needed backspacing, hence allowing you to fit a nice 33-inch, or bigger tire without any scrubbing or chaffing against suspension components, such as the UCA. Immediately I had minor rubbing but I got rid of the front mud flaps and that fixed it. The Tacoma is quite a long Ute/truck so you really have to go bigger to notice the wheels and improve break-over angles if you are planning on doing serious off-road and Overlanding. Not only do bigger tires look great and add a more aggressive stance to your truck, but they give you additional ground clearance, and typically a better/wider footprint that helps your truck perform better off-road. Driving at parking lot speeds and turning is extremely noticeable and quite unpleasant. The conundrum many 2nd Gen Tacoma owners appear to be facing is; How do we stuff a pair of 33 tires under it as cleanly as possible. What about first installing a quick and cheap body lift? 4:10s would make the truck feel like it was on stock tires, and youll get around 200 more RPMs at 70mph. Sorry to bump an old thread, but do any of you have a photo of your Tacoma with 265/75/16 at stock height? Totally factory suspension. Obviously, wheels are going to be the more expensive of the two options. When you lift your truck, you are changing the static ride height of your body. I run 235/85R16 KO2 on stock steel spare rims. JavaScript is disabled. After taking the Taco off-road, the rubbing is still very minimal. So as mentioned, both front driver and passenger sides front fender liners touch slightly on full lock and require some modifications to allow the wheel to turn freely. I have a 2010 with a 2" lift, I have 265/75/R16 good year duratracs. The most common size is 1.25 and thats all you would need to completely clear the upper control arm. The best ratio to re-gear, if you have the 4.0L to with 33s, would be 4:10 or 4:56. Bigger however isnt always better in all cases and you need to take a few things into consideration, such as: Once you have the answers to these and you know what your intended purpose for your tire upgrade is, youll be able to make a more informed decision. Anyway, I'm going to take a serious look soon at the 235/85-16 for off road and winter use. If you were going to jump to a 35-inch tire, it would be a different story. Wheel spacers have been ordered and should be more than enough to solve that issue. 265/75 will be fine. I'm a fan of using heavy duty tires so it's not something that bothers me and I'd probably use D or E even in 265/75R16 personally, but I know it's a preference for each owner. They do look disproportionately narrow from front or back since the track width on our trucks is relatively wide. Ive got a 2014 base level DC 44 V6 Tacoma. I'm not saying don't go to bigger tires, I just upgraded again last week. An alternative option is to get some type of bed tire carrier or a swingout. So there are 3 factors to consider before fitting bigger tires to your stock truck/Ute. The wheel offset on TRD Pro wheels is 4mm. The power loss from stock tires to 285/70R17 is minimal. When considering 33 tires, consider the actual size of the tire as not all 33 tires are created equal. What type of tires you go with is going to play a big role in how your truck handles on and off the road. Regardless of a 33 tire or a 35 tire, you should consider re-gearing at the 33 stage. Will you need wheel spacers or a front leveling kit? With that being said, fitting 35-inch tires will offer improved ground clearance as a result of the taller sidewalls as well as a more aesthetically [], So, you want to lift your Dodge with a leveling or a complete lift kit but youre concerned about your warranty. I own a 3rd Gen 4Runner and a 2nd Gen Tacoma. Should you Re-Gear if you run 33 Tires on your Tacoma? With wider tires (eg 285) you'll be rubbing your control arm and your cab mount. Thanks a bunch guys. The crawl ratio is what's anemic, what too high geared for off road in 1st-low. Trail Tacoma participates in various affiliate marketing programs, which means we may get paid commissions on editorially chosen products purchased through our links or to other retailer sites including Trail4R.com. On the contrary, if you run too much offset (negative) you are going to run into rubbing issues on the body. So any 33 tire, outside of a 255/85/16 will rub at some point. I am considering Open Country A/T2 in 235/85 16. 2 inch front and 1 nice rear. I like the narrower look of the 235s, but. This is especially true for hub-centric wheels and wheel spacers since the room for error is greatly reduced. These are made by Cooper and reportedly are same/similar compound as the Cooper Discoverer AT3 & ATP, which have great reviews. Driving straight they barely come in contact and it isnt noticeable at all. If you decide to go with a 3-inch lift kit in order to fit bigger tires on your Tacoma you might want to consider a rim upgrade as well. My original Grandtreks (245/75 16) are about ready to be replaced on my 4 cyl 2015 Tacoma 4WD. Even on slightly larger tires, the 275 will rub at some point, albeit much less. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It could use a 2 inch frame lift to even out the looks, but no rubbing. Tacomas are fantastic trucks and an improved stance and overall aesthetics are easily achieved by fitting bigger tires. Something else to consider is 235/85's are generally only available in load range E, while the 265/75's can be had in load range C. I think E's are way overkill for something like a Tacoma, but they do offer more protection. Whereas the stock ratio for 2.7L automatic and 3.5L 6spd is 4:30. Third gen Tacomas would be slightly different even though its the same concept and a lot of it depends on tire size. The tires completely cleared on-road. It requires some trimming on the inside fender liners. The 2.7L 2WD came in only one size 215/70/15 and the 4.0L XRunner came in a slightly bigger 255/45/18. Adding a lift will not necessarily help you with rubbing. They weren't very economical though. Its also important to realize that no matter what size tires you decide to put under your Tacoma, its important they dont rub. Is the ride of the tires rough? LOL, one man's anemic is another's purposive. This is something like a 285/70/17 or 285/75/16, which is a good choice since it gives you 2 taller and .8 wider than the factory. The factory stock wheels on a Tacoma are about +30mm. The solution is bigger tires. 255/85r16 will fit a truck with a 3 inch lift well but can still rub at full stuff or lock. Hey. You should be good with a 2-3 lift depending on if you clear the control arms or not. i upgraded wheels and tires to 2010 -19mm off tires are 275/60r20 I originally wanted to run 285s but the 4.0 is pretty anemic plus I don't want to regear. You "should" be able to go one profile size higher (from 265/65-17 to 265/70-17). The key determinant is likely what you aim to do with the truck. When it comes to wheel sizes on Jeeps, there is a world of options, and size comes down to personal preference and what your desired application is with the vehicle. For reference, we are using the 285/70R17 Yokohama Geolandar X-AT which is a true 33 tire measuring out at 33.1. Thanks daveindenver, 265/75 16s are my second choice as they are the same diameter. Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by tmboston, Dec 8, 2012. After daily driving the Tacoma for a couple of days with the 33s, the only spot it rubs is on the control arms. Lets find [], link to Can I Put 35" Tires on 18' Rims FITMENT GUIDE, link to Does A Lift/Levelling Kit Void My Warranty - DODGE, Difference Between 33 and 35 Tires (Size/Height/Weight), Tacoma 33 inch tires no lift How to Make Them Fit, 3512.5R17 vs 315/70R17 SIZE/WEIGHT/HEIGHT/LOAD Difference, Are 33-Inch Tires the same as 285s (Metric Vs MM), Tuff Country 3 Inch Toyota Tacoma Lift Kit 53910, Tuff Country 4 Inch Toyota Tacoma Lift Kit 54905KN, TeraFlex 2005+ Toyota Tacoma Falcon Sport 2 Inch Lift Shock Absorber System 08-04-21-400-100. That is a very well built Taco! However, hub-centric spacers arent that cheap either. When I'm not working on trucks I'm clocking in some trail time with my friends! You can deflate the tire for a more snug fit. 4:56 gears will definitely be more noticeable as you should see around a 300 RPM gain at 70mph. JavaScript is disabled. If you would rather cruise dirt roads and do easy to moderate trails, then 33s without re-gearing is not unheard of its just going to overtime be harder on your drivetrain, chassis, and 3rd member factory gears. Stock gears on 2nd gen Tacomas with the 4.0L is 3:73 which is the same for the final gear in 6spds and 5spds as well. TacomaSalad, any conclusions? I don't see any benefit to having bigger than stock without lifting, but highly recommend general grabber AT2s. Relatively speaking. The biggest tires you can fit on a stock 2015 Tacoma is: With the 17 rim the wheels scrub slightly on the mud flaps when turning in reverse. I've worked at a couple of different Toyota dealerships over the years which helped me learn a ton about everything Toyota. I want to run K02s on my 2013 Tacoma with a BP 51 ARB old man Emu 2 lift kit (heavy duty rear). Cody, please share some photos with the spacers installed and give us an update. Nothing grabs my attention quicker than a Tacoma on big tires. This comes in handy if you do a good amount of off-roading since the larger tires will allow you to go over obstacles rather than into them. The front tire also scrubs on the fender flair on full lock. Our 285/70/17 all-terrain tires barely fit in the stock location and thats aired down to 10 psi. It has the 265/75R 16 tires. I just put 265/70 17 5x5 wheels off of a jeep Cherokee using 1 inch 4.5 to 5.5 adapters on my 2014 double cab 2wd 2.7 and i really like the way she looks now. http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wh5-70r17-fit-my-trd-need-help-asap-please.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/251832-biggest-tire-i-can-fit-my-wheels.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wheels-tires/56418-biggest-tire-07-trd-sport.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wheels-tires/247746-largest-tires-tacoma.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/247424-tire-size-backspacing.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nst-size-tire-no-mods-2012-trd-sport-17-a.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/arizona/247353-biggest-tire-can-fit.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wheels-tires/246449-tire-size-08-taco-3-lift.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/whst-tires-fj-se-wheels-icon-3-lift-tsb-lp.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-serious-help-ome-lift-getting-285s-fit.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/242322-bilstein-5100-set-1-75-285-70-17-a.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wheels-tires/240329-285-70-17-smaller.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wheels-tires/241231-will-285s-fit-lift.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/241484-bilstein-5100s-285-65-18s.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/239420-fitting-285s-stock-suspension.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/1st-gen-tacomas/235077-285-75-r16-2-5-allpro-offroad-leveling.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/234335-285s.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wheels-tires/226480-265-vs-285-i-cant-decide.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/222439-what-fits.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wheels-tires/205085-285-17x9-wheel-lift-level.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wht-tire-can-i-run-w-3in-lift-1-25-spacers.html, http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wheels-tires/200876-4-7-8-bs-w-285s.html, Largest Tacoma Tire Sizes On Stock Suspension, https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/265-75-16-tires.62293/, https://www.tacomaworld.com/threadsith-265-70-17-or-265-75-16-size-tires.144480/, VIAIR 400P - 40043 Portable Compressor Kit. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. One of the other members, landphil, and I have swapped a few PMs about this matter. To answer the infamous question: you cant fit 33s on a stock Tacoma without a lift or without some modification (fender liner push back, CMC (cab mount chop), rocker panel cap trimming, fender trimming, body trimming, etc.). GOOD TO KNOW: Fitting 33 Tires on a Tacoma (How To Make Them Fit). Hey, just wanted to add my current setup, which shed some additional light (I too am here because Im contemplating going to 33). About a year after, I eventually got the lift I wanted: 2 Bilstein 6112 onRead more . Did a bit of reading but still have 2 unanswered questions: There's a tire thread in the FAQs sticky at the top. At the end of the day, the outside edge of the tire is getting moved farther away from the hub. As long as everything is torqued to spec, hub-centric wheel spacers are completely safe for on and off-road use. The only one Ive found for 33s being the 255/85R16s on a 0-offset wheel. It looks like we have plenty of room between the tire and the front bumper as well as the back of the fender. The 3rd Gen seems to have fewer issues with picking slightly larger tires. But what if you want to go 33 on a stock suspension and 0-offset wheel? ToyotaNation Forum is a community dedicated to all Toyota models. 285/75/16 is the metricequivalentof a33tire, or 32.8 to be precise. This will allow you to take full advantage of the increased clearance by fitting a more negative offset rim. This is due to the change in the geometry of the wheel in relation to the body. As for tire size, thanks for the info on the various tire sizes. That included full-lock reverse plus the curb drop test. Acceleration and road manners will be affected as well. Are the tires the LT285/70R17 121/118Q E tire? Also remember if you have an automatic that your shift points will be off unless you regear. the tires are rubbing.. can I go to a 3.5 lift and not rub? The exhaust pipe temperature is the coolest the further away from the engine outlet it is, so the chances of it getting hot enough to melt the rubber are slim to none. Parts and labor $1800 for the lift kit. Post facelifts offer the same size with an additional 265/60/18 size available from the factory. Its kind of hard to picture this without any graphic images so at this stage Id like you to watch the short video of the guys at @Taco Twonz who do an excellent job of showing how to fit 33-inch tires to a stock Tacoma with no lift. What did you end up going with. 285/70/17 on a stock suspension requires modifications to the front fender liner and rear fender flair. The Yokohama catalog does not show a Geolandar X-AT 285/70R17 that isnt an LT weight rating lower that 121/118 E. The LT and weight rating seem a bit excessive for a Tacoma. I have a 2021 toyota tacoma trd sport 44 with a 2.5 inch leveling kit. This means the site earns advertising fees through Amazon. Some overlanding, I am not a Rubicon Trail kind of driverI use it a good deal on base (still in the military). If you were to go up another size you would most likely need some modification to the spare location in order for it to fit. Offset essentially does the same thing wheel spacers do, pushes the outside edge of the tire away from the hub. Can you fit 33-inches without a lift? This one is pretty self-explanatory, but you will see a difference when you air down. Size doesnt necessarily matter but it can make your life a bit easier on the trail. I have 2021 Tacoma Trd off road with Trd lift kit which gives me 2 in front and 1 rear. They were really knobby and would only rub at full wheel turn. And a majority of the SR5 and Limited wheels come with +30 or the occasional +25 offset. Simply fitting a relatively inexpensive 2-inch leveling kit will allow you to install slightly taller and wider tires, however, the factory stock shocks/dampers and springs are incapable of handling any increased weight of bigger steel bumpers, and winches later on. A lot of us are going to want to keep our trucks daily driver-friendly. With a body lift you are lifting just the body, nothing else. toyotanation.com is not in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation. The right side is against the exhaust. My 09 Tacoma is currently a labor of love to get it trail-ready, to succeed an old Nissan truck Ive had for almost 20 years. I run 255/85/16. If they are rubbing and you dont address the issue, you are likely going to break something or tear something off eventually. When you go to a bigger tire size you will probably notice a bit of a power loss depending on your gear ratio. I notice there is also an increase in wt from 44lb (265/75) in load range C to 50lb in E, which will possibly be noticed with my auto 4 cyl already challenged. We were actually pretty surprised that the tires didnt rub anywhere on the body during daily driving. With that said, you can still bolt the wheel/tire onto your hub no problem you just might have some trimming to do. Even though you gain more height, the size of the inner fender stays the same so something has to give. An easy and cheap fix is going to be 1.25 hub-centric wheel spacers. I am currently working to identify the ideal tire and wheel combo to do the following: (a) Get a tire in the 32.5-33.2 range (e.g., 285/75/16), (a.1) Keep tire width in the 10.0 Read more . Content on toyotanation.com is generated by its users. But again, lift doesnt clear tires so dont be surprised if you dont rub on the road but rub a bit off-road. The X-ATs have a diameter of 33.1, a width of 11.7, comes in a load range E, and mounts up to a 7.50 9.00 wide wheel. Toyota: Tacoma, 4Runner, FJ, Tundra and Lexus GX. I have a '14 Tacoma ( Base Xtra Cab V6 4x4 with tow package) that is going to be due for new tires soon, and I plan to upgrade to some better tires for both on and off road driving, and thinking about going slightly bigger while I'm at it. The load range E thing is also usually true of 255/85R16. Especially if you off-road. They've been marvelous and have never let me down. So the full setup on the truck pictured is: Bilstein 5100 kit 2.8 front w/ Icon Add a Leaf 2 rear. Press J to jump to the feed. 2016+ Tacomas: 265/70/17, 265/75/16 or 265/65/18. It came with 245/70/16 stock. The alternative option would be to buy a set of wheels with a more aggressive offset. It's not a LS2 of course but it holds it own for my use. This domain, 4WheelDriveGiude.com, currently participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program. That is correct. I bought them because I liked the aggressive tread and price ($500 for 4 plus installation). Here we strive to provide the most accurate, up-to-date, information about the functionality, common faults and latest technology built into most 4 Wheel Drives. Sometimes trimming or removing front mud flaps is required. Mud terrains tend to be slightly bigger in size due to the bigger, more aggressive tread. Just driving on a rough dirt road wasnt bad at all, but the tires did rub a bit when they were stuffed into the wheel well. I used to run 265/75's, In my opinion, it's the best compromise of easily availability, ride comfort and offroad capability. They just look so good. Simply cutting away the plastic parts neatly with a sharp Stanley knife ensures total clearance on both driver and passenger sides. Now throw a bigger tire into the mix while running a lower PSI and you find yourself even more traction. They are 33" diameters, an inch more than stock. We are going to do a follow-up here and mount 33 tires on a stock 3rd Gen Tacoma without a lift and see exactly what we need to trim. The TRD Pro wheel lineup has +4. For the money, I don't think there's a better all terrain tire for your daily driver. A popular tire width for 3 lift kits is 285mm with little drama. Work great on- and off-road, and are holding up well to daily driving. Not sure on tire size for you, but I love my General Grabber AT2s. This doesnt mean you should forgo getting 33s. For 4 bangers the gear ratio goes up to 4:10 and the standard trans have the same final gear much like the v6 models. I did have to remove square blocks to accommodate turning without rubbing, but am happy with the results.Using a speed app on my phone, it read 30 doing 35 and 50 doing sixty, but i am ok with that. I'm running stock 3.73 and a RA60 manual with my 235/85R16. Smaller wheel spacers and less offset are perfectly fine for your truck so long as everything is installed correctly. If you cycle the suspension, you still get the same amount of wheel travel. Very complex question. This is important when it comes to topics like mounting a running a full-size spare; fitting a 32.7 tire is going to be easier than stuffing a 33.1 tire. The more positive the offset the less they protrude or poke or stick out. It's beeen reported that it's possible to run them without a lift. Lets talk about power. He indicated to me that he was running 235/85-16 on his Taco without rubbing and gained some ground clearance. So you decided to make the leap up to a larger size, and now you want to know what it takes to fit a 33 tire in the spare tire holder? That will be 1k plus. The size is alright, doesn't rub anywhere and didn't requirement any trimming or spacers to fit. One the things I discovered recently is that one has to actually look at the manufactures specs. After installing the tires we had ZERO rubbings on the fender liners and fender well in general on-road. Without a lift, this rubbing would be much worse on and off the road. Im doing the pinch weldRead more . Shawn, sorry for the delay here. I'm just wondering what size tires people have put on their Tacoma's without have to make any modifications, or with minimal modifications. We would love to have a guy like you! Same applies to 17 tires in 285/70/17. Btw, if you're going off road, don't forget skid plates. Sorry we missed you. Fitting a slightly more negative offset rim will improve the backspacing clearance, however, some minor wheel arch and body mount trim will still be necessary. The latest in new Tacoma parts, products and gear, giveaways & more! What is the biggest tire you can fit on a stock Toyota Tacoma? Happy Wheeling! Re-gearing allows you to be able to move bigger tires without adding any extra load to the engine. Now a lot depends on the tire and the tread. That truck will be momentarily donated by Snail Trail 44. I only wanted to go a little bigger anyways, to avoid having to regear, but I wanted to make sure that I wouldn't have any rubbing, so the 265/75r16 size sounds perfect. TRD Offroad and TRD Sports tend to have +30 offset whereas the TRD Beadlock lineup only has +10. This article will discuss how your warranty is affected if you have a claim. Does your dealership have the right to void your claim for any mechanical failures caused by the upgrade? Very subtly done but looks extremely tough. I have 265/70/17 on OE FJ wheels on my 2009 double cab. Of course this is assuming you are running the stock suspension. Or should I just go with 275s and my other concern is 9 wide wheel gonna be an issue with upper control arms?? This means that jumping from stock tires to 35s could be a bit of a dramatic change, but going to a 33 tire could work out perfectly. There is a small bolt on the front fender that secures the liner in place that requires relocation. There actually looks like there is plenty of room between the tire and the front bumper and fender. Anyone have experience with this lift kit and more specifically if the BFG KO2 285/75R 16 will fit with no rubbing? This gentleman fitted 285/75/16 on his Tacoma have a look here: Yes, you can fit this size if you want to run 16 in 285/75/16.
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